Crossed The Tiber

An Evangelical Converts to Catholicism

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I was born into the Catholic faith. At 14, I was "born again" and found Jesus personally but lost His Church. After thirty years as an evangelical protestant, I have come full circle to find that He has been there all the time, in the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. I wish others to find the beauty and truth of the Catholic faith as I have found.

Saturday, August 04, 2007

Anti-Catholicism is Just Plain Rude!

Just when you thought that Catholics and Protestants could put aside the reformation for a few moments to support conservative values in America, there is a pastor in the heartland of America who has a "whisper campaign" going on to ensure that other pastors know that Senator Brownback is a Catholic and "lacks discernment." Pastor Tim Rude, a Huckabee campaign volunteer circulated his comments in an e mail a few days ago setting off a food-fight between Brownback and Huckabee camps. The private e mail became public, much to his chagrin.

Actually, this is not news. Remember the founding fathers of our country saw to it to say that all men are created equal and have unalienable rights, except for Catholics and slaves who were not allowed to vote or hold public office? Maybe this pastor prefers the "freedom of religion" of colonial America.

I wonder if Pastor Tim Rude voted for Pres. Bush who stacked the Supreme Court with Catholics, who by nature of their Catholic faith, lack discernment? These same "undiscerning" Catholic Supreme Court Justices happen to think abortion is murder and voted to make partial birth abortion unconstitutional. If Pastor Rude would have his way, only "protestants should vote for protestants" (his words).
Check Out Bill Donahue's response here.
Deal Hudson has been on the story since it broke.
Here's what The, a non-religious blog said about it:

"The interesting part of it is the anti-Catholic sentiment conveyed by Rude. If he weren't a former Catholic himself, I'd say it was the kind of thing seen in the 1920s against Al Smith or in 1960 against John F. Kennedy -- a kind of unsavory Protestant nativism. In this case, maybe it's just a matter of displaced anger, but it sure had ugly repercussions."

Finally, It should be made clear that Pastor Rude did offer an apology which was certainly appropriate. We all write things at times we may later regret.(like this post perhaps in a few days when I calm down) My point is that anti-Catholicism continues to be the last acceptable prejudice in America and finds its way into the political arena more than we realize or become aware of, accidentally.


Blogger Joyful Catholics said...

How unequivocally Rude! Ex-Catholics are by far the most bitter and angry and rudest of all. Without coming to learn and understand their Catholic faith, it amazes me how quickly they swallow 'hook,line,and sinker' the 'traditions' of men in other fellowships, or start up their own "churches" and make their own traditions...which bash Catholics in some places it seems.

It was no doubt a huge "lack of discernment" that caused all the Catholics to start up hospitals and schools and universities, where Mr. Rude no doubt has been at times. He was probably born in a "Saint Something" hospital, I'll just bet ya. Don't "cool off" too much TJ. I like it when truth gets out with honest, sincere zeal and love FOR Truth. It's not about jabbing Mr. Rude or other anti-Catholics as much as it is a love for Truth. We are morally obligated to speak the truth in love, which at times, must sting a bit. So if this stings some a bit, maybe those "some" should rethink why they're so anti-Catholic and take the time to gain some discernment and learn that Catholics ARE Christians, too.

Jesus Is Lord!


August 05, 2007 7:42 AM  
Blogger Pilgrimsarbour said...

Wow! I'm starting to think that there are no good Protestants out there at all! May God grant that you will find some Protestant somewhere that has something good to say about Catholics.

August 05, 2007 1:18 PM  
Blogger Tiber Jumper said...

Some of my best friends are Protestants and I consider them all my brothers in Christ.
Perhaps you would be willing to help me find some Protestant websites that are saying good things about Catholics. That would be a neat blog post. I have posted about the Emergent church, the Kensington church as well as Evangelical outpost who all have been positive about Catholicism. I have also had positive e mail exchanges with Dr. Scott McKnight a Protestant professor at Jesus Creed blog.
Better yet, I have a devious little idea! Why don't you "pretend" that Pilgrimsarbour is considering a conversion to Catholicism and post about your journey on some reformed and evangelical blogs. You don't have to be dishonest even, you can tell them as a former Catholic you have been reading a lot(which is true) and are starting to consider conversion. When you collect enough "good" responses, you could blog about it. Kinda like a "Catholic Like Me" journalistic foray on the religious blogosphere.
I think it would be enlightening and perhaps I will be proven to be over-reacting in my little myopic corner of the world. If that is the case I will humbly own up to it. I look forward to hearing about the results.
God bless

August 05, 2007 2:45 PM  
Blogger Pilgrimsarbour said...

I was just kidding, RR. Besides, I doubt very seriously that what I interpret as "good" treatment of Catholics comports with your concept of that. In the spirit of friendship and brotherhood, I hereby admit defeat and agree to cease complaining about your complaining. :)

August 05, 2007 4:11 PM  
Blogger Tiber Jumper said...

Thank you my humble friend and brother in Christ.
God bless
PS:I still think it would be a fun project though :)

August 05, 2007 5:24 PM  
Anonymous Julie said...

Mr. Rude was quick to play the former Catholic card. In a very un-Christian way. I would be curious to know what his Catholic background is. A lot of "former" Catholics call themselves such and then say nasty things with the intention of conveying that they know what they are talking about. Who knows. He was perhaps baptized and then never was raised in Catholicism or catechized. If he HAD been well catechized, I am confident in saying he would not have left the church.

August 05, 2007 9:00 PM  
Blogger Tiber Jumper said...

As a former ex-catholic, I can say we tend to be more negative against the Church than average. Who can blame someone who never heard the truth? but us who were exposed to it and turned a blind eye, ahh!

August 06, 2007 10:14 PM  
Anonymous theo said...

In all things, charity.

August 07, 2007 10:54 AM  
Blogger Pilgrimsarbour said...

This is way off-topic, but have you looked at the thumbnail of your Clustrmap lately? It looks like a bloody nuclear holocaust! BTW, when does mine get to look like that? :)

August 07, 2007 5:33 PM  
Blogger Tiber Jumper said...

You want yours to look like that? Just start posting some controversial
thoughts on some other folks blogs
It'll be a bloody map in no time. ;)
I've been at this quite a bit longer I suppose, that helps.

August 07, 2007 6:48 PM  
Anonymous theo said...

What's a cluster map?

August 09, 2007 1:38 PM  
Blogger Tiber Jumper said...

theo, its the map at the bottom of blog that geographically displays the origin of your page hits

August 09, 2007 4:09 PM  

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