Seeker's Group Last Night
The Seekers meeting was small but went very well. Thanks for the prayers. It was attended by only one non-Catholic woman but the meeting went for over three hours!
We were also joined by a graduate of Moody Bible Institute who crossed the
Our planned discussion was on faith and works but we also discussed baptism, confession, the Eucharist, “once saved always saved”, where the Bible came from, apostolic succession etc.
Father R. listened through much of the discussion as I explained to our guest the Catholic perspective on Faith and Works. She was surprisingly on-board with Catholic views! She is from a church that is an off-shoot of John Wesley's church and therefore has similar views as Catholics regarding holiness and the ability to lose one's salvation.
Regarding infant baptism that she questioned, Father R. gave a most eloquent discussion of how and why Catholics baptize infants beautifully tying in the concept of God’s grace. Babies can’t do anything to earn this free gift!
Our non-Catholic friend was very surprised to know that Catholics “love the Lord” just like she and her church folks do. She had experienced so many Catholics in her life that didn’t live their faith and had thus come to the conclusion, as many do, that Catholics aren’t “saved.” She readily admitted though that there were many people in her denomination that didn’t live obedient lives as well.
At one point, our non-Catholic guest remarked that she was not going to convert. We reassured her that we did not expect her to but were happy that she was interested in learning what Catholics really believed. She said that there is much anti-Catholic rhetoric in her church and now she will have some information to share when people repeat false perceptions about Catholicism. Some of the best defenders of Catholicism sometimes turn out to be folks who are not Catholic! The beauty of Catholicism is that God draws people in over time and the
At the end of the evening, I joked that this was probably the first time she had ever met a priest face to face. I suspect it will not be the last.
Thanks again for the prayers, and keep Fr. R in your prayers as he battles daily for the kingdom and defends the faith.
2 Comments:
I hope she keeps coming back to your study. It will be interesting to hear her story in how she tries to defend The Church to her evangelical friends, to hear their responses and hear her responses to them...
I studied John Wesley's theology in great depth, before reverting to The Church.
To have a priest in your midst - what a privilege and a blessing!!!
I can relate to your expression of not feeling pressured to make a quick sale to evangelicals. But I admit when I see an evangelical ex-Catholic, I am very quick to tell them "Go Home!"
If I'm conversing with an evangelical born again ex-Catholic relative I'm more blunt and tell them "You are brainwashed!" Ha-ha!It's hilarious hearing their responses to that statement--at least we both get a good laugh :).
I agree, its so hard not to want to grab an ex catholic evangelical and bring them to Mass to really explain what's going on! My brother who "accepted Jesus" with me at the same Bible study in 1973 is now a charismatic/evangelical pastor who loves Jesus very much and is very committed to holiness. My heart aches for him since I know that if he could only see who is in the Eucharist....
Sadly we don't talk about spiritual things anymore and recently when a religious discussion came up, he left the room. Please pray that God can lift the veil for him and his family.
Yes knowing this convert priest has been such a blessing. Devout and orthodox and understanding a converts perspective. I felt that we had experienced quite a blessing by having him come over!!
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